Comments on: Some of Your Facebook Fans Will Never See Your Posts Again https://www.jonloomer.com/facebook-page-hide-all/ For Advanced Facebook Marketers Fri, 15 Sep 2023 15:50:06 +0000 hourly 1 By: fat_mike https://www.jonloomer.com/facebook-page-hide-all/#comment-23896 Mon, 01 May 2017 15:01:00 +0000 https://www.jonloomer.com/?p=9211#comment-23896 Great article. Just one objection. The hide_all report is not referring to just your fans but your entire reach.
Eg. If a fan of yours likes, comments or share your post, friends of your fan will see your post too and might not like it and choose to hide all your posts. That friend of your fan will be on your hide_all_posts report. So just summing all the hide_all from the report is probably giving you a false negative.

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By: NND https://www.jonloomer.com/facebook-page-hide-all/#comment-13009 Wed, 28 May 2014 20:09:00 +0000 https://www.jonloomer.com/?p=9211#comment-13009 http://muagiaydankinh.blogspot.com/2014/05/dan-kinh-chong-nong.html

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By: bbeasley https://www.jonloomer.com/facebook-page-hide-all/#comment-11024 Sat, 25 Jan 2014 04:25:00 +0000 https://www.jonloomer.com/?p=9211#comment-11024 In reply to Tasha.

Ctrl F will bring up the search box.

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By: tonetthome https://www.jonloomer.com/facebook-page-hide-all/#comment-10317 Thu, 12 Dec 2013 10:01:00 +0000 https://www.jonloomer.com/?p=9211#comment-10317 Hi Jon,

There is a 68k facebook page, where I put a picture if you look at the post office who has to reach twenty thousand, but if I make a link to a page you have 50 people saw this post. Why is this? thank you

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By: Post https://www.jonloomer.com/facebook-page-hide-all/#comment-9844 Tue, 12 Nov 2013 15:31:00 +0000 https://www.jonloomer.com/?p=9211#comment-9844 This is interesting, but I need to know WHO has hidden all my posts.

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By: Paper Doll https://www.jonloomer.com/facebook-page-hide-all/#comment-7675 Sat, 17 Aug 2013 19:21:00 +0000 https://www.jonloomer.com/?p=9211#comment-7675 How can you tell who has hidden your posts? From YOUR profile?

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By: Tasha https://www.jonloomer.com/facebook-page-hide-all/#comment-6634 Mon, 27 May 2013 06:12:00 +0000 https://www.jonloomer.com/?p=9211#comment-6634 In reply to Sofia Pacifico.

Thanks for the help Sofia! However, my problem is I can’t search for anything? When i go to “Find” at the top of Open Office and click enter it says “Search key not found” How do I search? lol

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By: Sofia Pacifico https://www.jonloomer.com/facebook-page-hide-all/#comment-6415 Tue, 14 May 2013 21:33:00 +0000 https://www.jonloomer.com/?p=9211#comment-6415 In reply to Tasha W.

Hi Tasha, I don’t know if you found the answer to this but here it goes anyway… I did the same exercise and I couldn’t find hide_all so what I did was find hide_. Facebook might have changed their field name on the export data and it’s now “hide_clicks”. Hope this helps.

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By: Tasha W https://www.jonloomer.com/facebook-page-hide-all/#comment-5524 Fri, 22 Mar 2013 20:45:00 +0000 https://www.jonloomer.com/?p=9211#comment-5524 Hi there, I followed your steps above, just wondering when I search for “hide_all” in the exported file? Do I use “find” When I type search for “hide_all”into find, it tells me nothing was found. Thanks for your help!

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By: CathyWebSavvyPR https://www.jonloomer.com/facebook-page-hide-all/#comment-4449 Thu, 31 Jan 2013 03:45:00 +0000 https://www.jonloomer.com/?p=9211#comment-4449 In reply to Mikel Zaremba.

I like your logic, true all TV shows or TV ads don’t reach all potential viewers. Good point that also gets lost. But to me, the difference is that with radio, TV & newspapers, they show pretty much the same content & ads for all people who are watching/listening/reading at that time/day’s media/content. They don’t chose which articles or which ads I see. Those of us watching/hearing/reading pretty much all “see” the same thing.

I don’t trust Facebook’s algorithm enough to choose FOR me what I may or may not want to see. While I am on Facebook at a certain time, as a user, my preference (and many people’s assumption) would be that I am seeing all of the current content from all of my friends and from all of the pages I’ve connected with, except those I have chosen to unfriend or hide. But Facebook doesn’t do that.

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By: Michelle https://www.jonloomer.com/facebook-page-hide-all/#comment-4046 Wed, 16 Jan 2013 05:46:00 +0000 https://www.jonloomer.com/?p=9211#comment-4046 Actually, I wrote a post on this last fall. Yes, FB is hiding pages from feeds. I’ve tested this in many different ways. The key is to categorize your pages into lists. If you don’t want to bother with that, simply create a list called EVERYTHING or PAGES or whatever. Click that list every few days and all your pages will return to your feed. Period. (They hid them so that we’ll want to pay per post to promote. I don’t want to do that.) I shared this with all the readers one of my FB pages but not the others. Sure enough, the posts on that page are seen by hundreds each day while the other pages rarely are seen in feeds.

I also tested by categorizing into interest lists but never actually clicking those interest lists. No pages in my feed. Ever. Then I’d click on one list..let’s say “Green Pages” and they’d be in my feed for a few days while pages in the other lists never showed.

So, in the end, I click my “Everything” list (I put each and every page I like in this list as well as it’s own category) nearly daily even if I don’t interact or even look at them all. It keeps everything in my feed all the time.

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By: Michelle Cannon https://www.jonloomer.com/facebook-page-hide-all/#comment-4045 Wed, 16 Jan 2013 05:41:00 +0000 https://www.jonloomer.com/?p=9211#comment-4045 Actually

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By: Chad Diedrick https://www.jonloomer.com/facebook-page-hide-all/#comment-3987 Sat, 12 Jan 2013 15:16:00 +0000 https://www.jonloomer.com/?p=9211#comment-3987 In reply to Chad Diedrick.

Just realized on one of our highest hide all days one of our posts double posted (same post appeared two times back to back). I guess if I saw that, I may hide all as well.

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By: Chad Diedrick https://www.jonloomer.com/facebook-page-hide-all/#comment-3986 Sat, 12 Jan 2013 15:11:00 +0000 https://www.jonloomer.com/?p=9211#comment-3986 Jon, finally saw this post, and it finally motivated me to start using insight data – or at least gave me something to research. So in a one year timeframe our page has 3.5% hide all. Also found we had 66 reports of spam. Now to go back to the highest hide all days and see what we posted about that may have caused it. I also realize we get more unlikes after we get a surge in likes – so I’m assuming now that the hide alls may be similar.

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By: Jon Loomer https://www.jonloomer.com/facebook-page-hide-all/#comment-3429 Fri, 14 Dec 2012 00:01:00 +0000 https://www.jonloomer.com/?p=9211#comment-3429 In reply to Kari Rowen.

Hi, Kari! Facebook actually killed the All feed. They didn’t even know it was out there.

Good point about Interest Lists. Wow, you really use them! That would definitely impact some of the stats. That said, I’m confident in assuming you are the exception to the rule! I don’t think most people use Interest Lists, and I’d say a small fraction of 1% use it in this way. You’re a power user!

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By: Kari Rowen https://www.jonloomer.com/facebook-page-hide-all/#comment-3406 Wed, 12 Dec 2012 15:11:00 +0000 https://www.jonloomer.com/?p=9211#comment-3406 In reply to Jon Loomer.

Recently I ran across a URL for an “All” feed on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/?sk=nf_all. When I first started using the feed, it did show me a lot more posts from people and pages I had not seen activity from in a long time. For about the past week or so, I have been having a lot of issues with photos in my news feed and I noticed that when those issues started up, my “All” feed was also affected… it’s now the same feed as my “Most Recent” and “Top Stories” feeds. (Yes, I opened all 3 simultaneously and all 3 were identical to one another. Don’t judge me. lol) I really enjoyed the “All” feed when it was working properly, and hope Facebook gets through tinkering soon so the “All” feed is fixed. Give it a try if you haven’t yet. Perhaps it will work for you.

On a separate note, I am wondering if my methods of organizing within Facebook could negatively impact the stats you are referring to. I live and work in Montana, a large, vastly rural state. There are many miles between cities here. However my job requires me to be connected in many cities and regions. In my personal news feed, I don’t want to see the lunch specials for a diner in a town hundreds of miles away, but I do want to keep those contacts in Interest Lists so I can keep up to date with the community for pages I manage there. I put pages into geographically sorted Interest Lists, and if they are not a page I want to keep up with personally, I uncheck “Show in News Feed.” That happens to most pages I have liked. This routine allows me specific feeds to see what’s happening in other regions and keeps my personal feed in a relatively clutter-free state, so it is optimal for me and my specific needs.

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By: SunSocial Marketing https://www.jonloomer.com/facebook-page-hide-all/#comment-3352 Fri, 07 Dec 2012 21:51:00 +0000 https://www.jonloomer.com/?p=9211#comment-3352 In reply to Jon Loomer.

You’ve convinced me to give the ticker another shot. ;-)

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By: Jon Loomer https://www.jonloomer.com/facebook-page-hide-all/#comment-3348 Fri, 07 Dec 2012 20:15:00 +0000 https://www.jonloomer.com/?p=9211#comment-3348 In reply to SunSocial Marketing.

Thanks! Personally, I love the Ticker. I think people misunderstand what it’s for. It’s incredibly valuable to keep up with what’s happening when you’re not on your News Feed. It’s also terrific for surfacing recent activity on old content. For example, if someone comments today on a photo from last week, News Feed would never show that. It would only show the first share. Ticker allows me to jump back into the conversation.

I don’t completely disagree, though, that an unfiltered OPTION would be something to consider. I don’t think it would be in Facebook’s best interests to make such an option the default view, which is what many are suggesting.

Thanks for reading!

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By: SunSocial Marketing https://www.jonloomer.com/facebook-page-hide-all/#comment-3320 Fri, 07 Dec 2012 19:00:00 +0000 https://www.jonloomer.com/?p=9211#comment-3320 Jon – you continue to be the voice of reason on all things Facebook. Pages can never expect to have the control over showing updates to all their fans! However, as a user I would appreciate the option to alter my newsfeed to show me ALL posts if I want. Forget the ticker and get notifications for a moment… I’ve noticed even “most recent” does not show all my friends’ posts in chronological order. Similarly, even the new pages feed doesn’t show me all the posts from my liked pages. I think users should be able to toggle this option. I’m not sure if adding to an interests list would accomplish this or not, but I shouldn’t have to go to all that trouble.

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By: Guest https://www.jonloomer.com/facebook-page-hide-all/#comment-3318 Fri, 07 Dec 2012 18:53:00 +0000 https://www.jonloomer.com/?p=9211#comment-3318 Jon – you’re continually the voice of reason on all things Facebook. Users have most of the power in this situation

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By: Jon Loomer https://www.jonloomer.com/facebook-page-hide-all/#comment-2951 Mon, 12 Nov 2012 06:48:00 +0000 https://www.jonloomer.com/?p=9211#comment-2951 In reply to Steve Cameron.

Good points, Steve! I do think, though, that you can’t ignore the pages that people like simply to voice that they like the product, with no expectation that they’ll ever hear from that brand. I know I like a bunch of those pages.

Additionally, while a News Feed that the user can fine tune themselves sounds great, Facebook users have proven time and time again that they’re lazy and won’t use features that will make their feed better. Sure, you and I would (and do), but most will and do not. The impact of that without News Feed is boredom of all of the crap that flows through. And there will be a lot of crap.

As a user, I do not want to see 250 marketing messages every day in my News Feed from the 250 pages that I like. That would ruin my Facebook experience.

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By: Steve Cameron https://www.jonloomer.com/facebook-page-hide-all/#comment-2938 Sun, 11 Nov 2012 14:41:00 +0000 https://www.jonloomer.com/?p=9211#comment-2938 I’m getting confused here, Jon.

I get that people can hide my posts from their feed – and you’re right we just have to deal with that. Although why a person would hide my posts when the “unlike” button is actually easier to get to (you have to use the unlike button to get to the hide setting…)

But as I understand it – many of our followers are now not even getting the posts on their timeline – and this is not a gradual thing – I have one client who was getting between 10 and 13k “people saw this post” – the page has just over 500 followers – this is s very niche site and all the likes are genuine – or most… we only get a few added each week so I generally take a look at them and they “fit the profile” etc….

A couple of weeks ago these “people saw this post” dropped to between 100 and 200!

That is a massive drop and is worrying. And it seems that we are going to have to work on improving Edge Rank (we should obviously do that) but it’s harder for some pages than others – this particular client is one of the harder ones. Not me complaining and looking to blame fb – but many of the techniques we might look to use – such a s special promotions are simply not appropriate here.

This is not the client’s sector, but a generic illustration of what I mean… say we ran a page for people contemplating suicide. It could get a good number of followers, but they would be unlikely to “share” the content . in fact, they might well not even want to comment. As a result they would stop seeing the content – fb would simply assume that since they hadn’t liked and shared that they were not interested.

It would make more sense for fb to simply allow users to decide if they want to unlike a page.

That’s what like means – I like a page – because I want to keep up with their posts – if they post too much, or if I no longer find their posts interesting (lots of those) then I can simply unlike them.

It really should not be up to fb to decide what I can see from the pages I CHOSE to follow. Who are they to censor my relationship with the page? There really is little justification. I cannot understand why people would follow thousands and thousands of pages – it doesn’t make sense – but I also don’t see why fb should interfere.

It is a little like signing up for cable TV – and then the cable company deciding that you can no longer have access to certain channels because you haven’t watched anything on that channel for a month or more…

Just my 2 cents….

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By: Jhazz https://www.jonloomer.com/facebook-page-hide-all/#comment-2827 Sat, 03 Nov 2012 15:47:00 +0000 https://www.jonloomer.com/?p=9211#comment-2827 Guess what Jon?! I think your article is correct!
I am surprised to be reading this post just now when you have published AND posted about this blog post last Tuesday! I am no longer seeing your posts in my newsfeed..and that includes almost ALL the Facebook and IM experts I have included in my Interest List. One exception though… I just saw Social Identities post just now (no link post) where he provided the link to your blog in his comment box instead. To think that it’s the only FB status update I’ve seen for about a week from the pages I’ve subscribed with… well, this post plus Social Identities’ FB post is definitely making sense.

I’d have to check my pages’ Insights spreadsheet too. Thanks for this excellent “expose” Jon

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By: Jon Loomer https://www.jonloomer.com/facebook-page-hide-all/#comment-2779 Wed, 31 Oct 2012 17:17:00 +0000 https://www.jonloomer.com/?p=9211#comment-2779 In reply to Back & Neck.

Hmmmm… 1/3 definitely seems high! I’d take a look at frequency and content.

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By: Back & Neck https://www.jonloomer.com/facebook-page-hide-all/#comment-2767 Wed, 31 Oct 2012 07:26:00 +0000 https://www.jonloomer.com/?p=9211#comment-2767 This was great information. I came up with a number that freaked me out a bit, but after reading everyone’s comments, I feel better. I still feel it’s very high, though – it’s about 1/3 of my Fans. Should I go back to being freaked out? In response to Mikel, I’d say the analogy to radio & tv is not necessarily a great one, because you run the same ad many times throughout the day, in different listening/watching time blocks, for days/weeks/months. If we posted the same status all day every day, we’d lose *all* our followers.Unless it was a really, REALLY good post ;)

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By: Jon Loomer https://www.jonloomer.com/facebook-page-hide-all/#comment-2765 Wed, 31 Oct 2012 05:06:00 +0000 https://www.jonloomer.com/?p=9211#comment-2765 In reply to Mikel Zaremba.

I KNOW! I tend to use the 20% open rate bench mark for email as an example. Email’s a stationary target. Facebook users will only see your stuff when timed perfectly (and they’re on Facebook for an average of only 30 minutes per day). The expectation that they’ll see your content is insane. Great comparison with TV and radio as well!

Thanks for the comment and kind words, Mikel!

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By: Jon Loomer https://www.jonloomer.com/facebook-page-hide-all/#comment-2764 Wed, 31 Oct 2012 05:04:00 +0000 https://www.jonloomer.com/?p=9211#comment-2764 In reply to Darrin Wasniewski.

Sounds like you could push the envelope a bit more, Darrin!

Honestly, there’s not much you can actually make of the number unless it’s insanely high. Even then, I’d bet that political pages and famous people with high engagement have very high Hide All numbers as well.

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By: Jon Loomer https://www.jonloomer.com/facebook-page-hide-all/#comment-2763 Wed, 31 Oct 2012 05:03:00 +0000 https://www.jonloomer.com/?p=9211#comment-2763 In reply to Dawn Kelly.

Thank you so much for the kind words, Dawn! And I agree 100%. It’s one reason why I write so much content. By no means do I expect that my readers will see everything I write. In fact, I know that they don’t WANT to see everything I write. It’s an insanely unreasonable expectation.

Some are bent out of shape about not reaching “all of their fans.” It seems pretty normal to me.

Thanks so much for the comment!

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By: Jon Loomer https://www.jonloomer.com/facebook-page-hide-all/#comment-2762 Wed, 31 Oct 2012 05:02:00 +0000 https://www.jonloomer.com/?p=9211#comment-2762 In reply to Gordon Robinson.

Thanks, Gordon! Since Facebook provides no details about who these people are — and it’s impossible to figure it out — there’s nothing you can do. Just gotta deal with it!

The whole deleting fans thing is kinda tricky, I might add. There may be some who are pretty obviously bots, for example… But you’re bound to mistakenly delete some who are actually interested in your content. I just tend to leave it.

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By: Jon Loomer https://www.jonloomer.com/facebook-page-hide-all/#comment-2761 Wed, 31 Oct 2012 04:59:00 +0000 https://www.jonloomer.com/?p=9211#comment-2761 In reply to Jacob Rasmussen.

That’s an excellent point, Jacob. Definitely something I’ll take a closer look at. Of course, there will always be a level of unknown since Facebook doesn’t break this down.

Pretty amazing, isn’t it? As robust and incredibly overwhelming as their stats are, there seem to be so many sets of data missing that could make it better!

Thanks for your thoughts!

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By: Mikel Zaremba https://www.jonloomer.com/facebook-page-hide-all/#comment-2757 Tue, 30 Oct 2012 16:14:00 +0000 https://www.jonloomer.com/?p=9211#comment-2757 Do all radio spots reach all people with a radio? Do all commercials hit all people with a TV? Do all emails get opened by everyone on the list? Why would social channels be any different? Great post! Thanks for that spreadsheet work around.

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By: Darrin Wasniewski https://www.jonloomer.com/facebook-page-hide-all/#comment-2750 Tue, 30 Oct 2012 13:53:00 +0000 https://www.jonloomer.com/?p=9211#comment-2750 Thanks for the analysis tool. I was a little afraid at first to run the numbers, but in the end I came out with a 2% “hide all” on my organization’s page in the past year.

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By: Dawn Kelly https://www.jonloomer.com/facebook-page-hide-all/#comment-2749 Tue, 30 Oct 2012 13:43:00 +0000 https://www.jonloomer.com/?p=9211#comment-2749 Hi Jon. First of all – I always read your posts when I come online and appreciate the work that goes into determining some of the insight that you provide. That being said, I know I miss some of your posts because…well….I’m not online 24/7 and one only has time to scroll back so far in their newsfeed to see what’s ‘new’. I think that’s ok though. Facebook is a fluid platform and not one in which you should expect to get high penetration 100% of the time. That newsfeed isn’t going to stay still….for any of us anytime soon and I’m fine with that – while we may ‘miss’ some things, it does means the news is always ‘timely’. Have a great day!

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By: Gordon Robinson https://www.jonloomer.com/facebook-page-hide-all/#comment-2747 Tue, 30 Oct 2012 13:29:00 +0000 https://www.jonloomer.com/?p=9211#comment-2747 Hey Jon – very useful post. And the results are interesting. Question – is there a way to delete these ‘hiders’ and would that be a good idea if it could be done? I also know I have a large percentage of ‘likes’ that do not interact at all and are there because when I started I was ‘like mine I’ll like yours’ – I am not proud I know!! but would it make sense to get rid of these likes that have no interest in what I am really offering? Great post by the way ~ Gordon

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By: Karen Chapman Wilson https://www.jonloomer.com/facebook-page-hide-all/#comment-2746 Tue, 30 Oct 2012 13:12:00 +0000 https://www.jonloomer.com/?p=9211#comment-2746 In reply to Jacob Rasmussen.

Unless you’ve liked the page, you can’t hide their content other than the story generated by your friend’s action. But I would like to know if hiding an individual story from my friend is reflected in the negative feedback on my page. That would certainly skew the stats.

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By: Jacob Rasmussen https://www.jonloomer.com/facebook-page-hide-all/#comment-2743 Tue, 30 Oct 2012 08:32:00 +0000 https://www.jonloomer.com/?p=9211#comment-2743 Hi John, very interesting article. Isn’t it obvious that you should have a high percentage of people hiding your stuff. If your posts have high virality, they should reach a higher number of people for whom they are irrelevant.

If I consistently like your posts, there’s a chance they would start appearing in the newsfeed of people that I went to high school with and who might have liked images of my children – but they don’t care at all about Facebook statistics.

After a while they should get annoyed and hide your posts from their feed but keep seeing pictures of my children.

If I look at my statistics, the number of hides and spam reports correlate with the sponsored posts, I have made. The further reach – the more negative feedback.

The way I read the data export, the people who have hidden my posts, are not likely to be fans – more likely to be friends of fans or even more remotely connected than that.

If I reach 54.000 people with a sponsored post and have a negative feedback of 28 users, I assume that’s quite OK – especially since some of the people who reported spam may also have clicked “Hide all”.

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