Comments on: Does Targeting Still Matter? https://www.jonloomer.com/does-targeting-still-matter/ For Advanced Facebook Marketers Thu, 26 Sep 2024 18:51:33 +0000 hourly 1 By: Jon Loomer https://www.jonloomer.com/does-targeting-still-matter/#comment-27210 Thu, 26 Sep 2024 18:51:33 +0000 https://www.jonloomer.com/?p=45738#comment-27210 In reply to Abbey.

I’m glad you found this helpful, Abbey.

I wouldn’t say that targeting existing customers is necessarily a waste of money. While the assumption might be that your email would have converted them anyway, that’s not necessarily the case. Understand that the algorithm will always prioritize getting you as many conversions as possible. That will typically include a mix of current subscribers and customers.

I’m not sure why you’d still pay to reach current customers if you already excluded them. The first thing I’d do is check to see how you defined your current customers and engaged audience within audience segments. Then look at how you defined the existing customers you were excluding.

Finally, I’d look at the distribution between click through and view through conversions. If you have a very high percentage of view-through conversions, I would indeed consider that problematic. If that’s the case, you can remove 1-day view from your attribution setting in the ad set. Otherwise, if people are clicking the ad and converting, existing customers or not, I’d say your ad was the primary reason for the conversion.

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By: Abbey https://www.jonloomer.com/does-targeting-still-matter/#comment-27209 Thu, 26 Sep 2024 17:35:19 +0000 https://www.jonloomer.com/?p=45738#comment-27209 Big thanks for this Article Jon – I implemented this and it's honestly been super eye opening. I can see that about 40% of my conversions are coming from Existing Customers – even on the retargeting campaign I left running (with a small budget), which specifically excludes existing customers.

Do you think this is something that will come down over time? It's such a waste of money to target people that are already subscribers or repeat purchasers (that's what we have email and text marketing for!), but does Meta just go where it thinks it can record the most conversions for its platform?

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By: felipe aristizabal https://www.jonloomer.com/does-targeting-still-matter/#comment-27085 Sat, 14 Sep 2024 14:33:14 +0000 https://www.jonloomer.com/?p=45738#comment-27085 In reply to Jon Loomer.

So that means an ad like the one Plamen Todorov tells about, should be specifically on with a retargeting only audience?, but if we have an ad that is for both (remarketing and prospecting), we should keep it broad and simple?

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By: Lisa Sicard https://www.jonloomer.com/does-targeting-still-matter/#comment-26861 Tue, 20 Aug 2024 09:59:22 +0000 https://www.jonloomer.com/?p=45738#comment-26861 In reply to Arthur Shtein.

Excellent point, I've found that also on clients campaigns. And real estate gets even less targeted.

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By: Jon Loomer https://www.jonloomer.com/does-targeting-still-matter/#comment-26758 Thu, 01 Aug 2024 10:19:59 +0000 https://www.jonloomer.com/?p=45738#comment-26758 In reply to Sharmi.

Hi, Sharmi. Were you using Advantage+ Audience or original audiences? If Advantage+ Audience, your gender selection is only a suggestion.

But, that takes us to the next question. What was your performance goal in the ad set? If it was Maximize Conversions, it surprises me that this would happen. If it was something top of the funnel, like Post Engagement, Link Clicks, Landing Page Views, or ThruPlay, that’s unfortunately not a surprise.

Here’s an example of how it should work, assuming you optimize for conversions: https://www.jonloomer.com/qvt/example-of-how-broad-targeting-works/

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By: Sharmi https://www.jonloomer.com/does-targeting-still-matter/#comment-26757 Thu, 01 Aug 2024 09:06:04 +0000 https://www.jonloomer.com/?p=45738#comment-26757 Hi Jon, Recently, I ran a campaign on Meta specifically targeting a female audience. However, despite this targeting, the ads were shown to males, resulting in most of my budget being spent on an unintended audience. The male audience reached was not suitable, leading to significant issues. I had selected a manual campaign. Could you please clarify why this happened? Thanks

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By: Khalil Arsahd https://www.jonloomer.com/does-targeting-still-matter/#comment-26730 Wed, 24 Jul 2024 07:03:40 +0000 https://www.jonloomer.com/?p=45738#comment-26730 Great article, Jon! It's fascinating to see how the landscape of targeting in digital advertising has shifted so dramatically. Your insights into the diminished importance of manual targeting inputs and the rise of algorithmic targeting are eye-opening. It really makes one reconsider the time spent on targeting strategies. Focusing more on ad creative and copy seems to be the new frontier. Thanks for sharing your detailed tests and observations!

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By: Jon Loomer https://www.jonloomer.com/does-targeting-still-matter/#comment-26698 Fri, 19 Jul 2024 16:25:18 +0000 https://www.jonloomer.com/?p=45738#comment-26698 In reply to dziadzie.

There can be if you have specific goals for multiple products. In that case, simply creating ads for each product within a single campaign may not be enough.

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By: dziadzie https://www.jonloomer.com/does-targeting-still-matter/#comment-26697 Fri, 19 Jul 2024 05:33:58 +0000 https://www.jonloomer.com/?p=45738#comment-26697 So what would be a sensible setuo for a typical e-commerce? One ADV+ Shopping campaing with 100% of the budget allocated? Is there a reason for more than one? :)

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By: Jon Loomer https://www.jonloomer.com/does-targeting-still-matter/#comment-26654 Wed, 10 Jul 2024 16:37:26 +0000 https://www.jonloomer.com/?p=45738#comment-26654 In reply to Plamen Todorov.

There’s context with that statement, of course! The beauty is that it is automatically distributed to both remarketing and prospecting without having to create separate ad sets.

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By: Ceo O S Jeremiah https://www.jonloomer.com/does-targeting-still-matter/#comment-26653 Wed, 10 Jul 2024 08:45:39 +0000 https://www.jonloomer.com/?p=45738#comment-26653 In reply to Arthur Shtein.

Exactly the same mess I experienced with Meta.

Why getting old ages through adv+ audience when added to my custom audience.

After Meta promised not to ever go beyond my targeting?

You need to know what you're doing in Meta ad.

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By: Plamen Todorov https://www.jonloomer.com/does-targeting-still-matter/#comment-26649 Tue, 09 Jul 2024 10:30:13 +0000 https://www.jonloomer.com/?p=45738#comment-26649 Hey Jon,
great article as always!

I can`t agree with the following:

And that’s kind of the beauty of how Meta is distributing my budget

I guess "beauty" should be in quotes, because it`s ugly as..

Meta has made a huge mess with its targeting, resulting in lower results in almost every niche.

A few days ago I saw an ad, saying "You have products in your cart, go ahead and finish your order", from a website I`ve never seen or interacted before…

Cheers!

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By: Arthur Shtein https://www.jonloomer.com/does-targeting-still-matter/#comment-26650 Tue, 09 Jul 2024 04:42:33 +0000 https://www.jonloomer.com/?p=45738#comment-26650 I believe Meta doesn't fully understand how detrimental their advertising algorithms can be for certain businesses.

For example, I manage ads for a business that offers Cyber Security courses, targeting primarily 20-30-year-olds. While running an ADV+ campaign, we initially saw promising results. However, as the campaign progressed, most of the leads we received were from individuals over 50, which was irrelevant to our target demographic and resulted in wasted budget. Despite this, the algorithm perceived these results as successful and redirected 70%-80% of our budget towards the older audience.

If your audience isn't strictly age-specific, ADV+ campaigns should work fine. However, if age is a critical factor, you'll likely need to use Original Audiences to avoid wasting money on irrelevant demographics.

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